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ejfan Offline




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14.09.2009 15:40
#16 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

An dem sollte es ja dann wohl nicht scheitern. Hier steht ja "haben" und nicht "hatten". Was schon eher ein Problem werden könnte, ist das Alter (Altersunterschied darf wohl nicht mehr als 45 Jahre sein) und dass es sich hier nicht um ein Hetero-Pärchen handelt; in der Ukraine gibt es anscheinend entsprechende Auflagen.

Das hier hat übrigens Tony geschrieben:
I have just got you both a copy of today's edition of the Daily Mail, Elton is on the front cover, thought you may like it, the story is all about the little boy and the adoption, the papers are saying that if it went ahead this boy has a brother and Elton will have to adopt him also

Wird immer interessanter....ist halt die Frage, ob's stimmt...

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14.09.2009 18:53
#17 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

KEINE ADOPTION!!!

KIEV, Ukraine – Elton John will not be able to adopt a 14-month-old Ukrainian child because the pop star is too old and isn't traditionally married, Ukraine's minister for family affairs said Monday.

The pop signer toured a hospital for HIV-infected children in eastern Ukraine on Saturday as part of a charity project and said that he and his male partner David Furnish wanted to adopt an HIV-infected boy named Lev.

But the country's Family, Youth and Sports Minister Yuriy Pavlenko told The Associated Press that adoptive parents must be married and Ukraine does not recognize homosexual unions as marriage.

John and Furnish, his longtime partner, tied the knot in 2005 in one of the first legalized civil unions in the United Kingdom.

Pavlenko also said John was too old. The singer is 62 and Ukrainian law requires a parent to be no more than 45 years older than an adopted child.

"Foreign citizens who are single have no right to adopt children ... and the age difference between the adopter and the child cannot be more than 45 years," Pavlenko said. "The law is the same for everybody: for a president, for a minister, for Elton John."

John gave Lev a big kiss at the orphanage in Makiyivka.

"I don't know how we do that, but he has stolen my heart. And he has stolen David's heart and it would be wonderful if we can have a home," John said.

Pavlenko said Ukraine was grateful for the singer's charity work and expressed hope that his desire to adopt Lev would spur the domestic adoption of more children with health problems, which is still rare in Ukraine.

ejfan Offline




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14.09.2009 19:58
#18 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

Vielleicht gibt's doch noch eine Möglichkeit, aber dann offensichtlich gleich das "doppelte Lottchen"

The Ukrainian orphan Elton John wants to adopt will not go home with the singer and his longtime partner David Furnish, a Ukrainian family minister said Monday – citing a national law that prohibits unmarried couples from adopting, the Associated Press reports.

John and Furnish entered into a civil partnership on Dec. 21, 2005, the first day such unions became legal in John's native England.

John, 62, met Lev, a Ukrainian toddler, while touring an orphanage where many of the children's parents have died from AIDS.

"Having seen Lev today, I would love to adopt him," John said over the weekend. "I don't know how we do that but he has stolen my heart. And he has stolen David's heart and it would be wonderful if we can have a home."

Ukrainian laws are very strict when it comes to adoption. Not only do the laws ban same-sex couples from adopting, they also state that the parents cannot be more than 45 years older than the child. Their only hope would be a presidential dispensation to take home 14-month-old Lev.

On Monday it was also revealed that, according to the country's law, should Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko grant John and Furnish's wish, the pair would also have to adopt Lev's brother, who is also in care.

Torge Meyer Offline




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14.09.2009 20:25
#19 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

Ich habe mich schon gewundert, ob das in der Ukraine auch so geht?
Das ist halt einfach so.

Nach meiner Meinung sollte Elton kein kind adoptieren.
Alleine schon, weil er doch kaum Zeit hat.
Man kann sich dem Kind ja nicht selber überlassen.
Und auch David ist nicht immer da.

Elton sollte lieber allen Kindern der Welt die gleiche Liebe schenken....

wali Offline




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14.09.2009 20:39
#20 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

Wenn es um den Präsidenten geht,..
Elton is ja ein guter Freund von dem..
Wenn er es wirklich will dürfte das kein Problem sein...

Rocket Offline




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14.09.2009 20:40
#21 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

Ein Präsident wird sich nicht über die Gesetze seines Landes hinwegsetzen.

ejfan Offline




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14.09.2009 20:48
#22 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

"Foreign citizens who are single have no right to adopt children... and the age difference between the adopter and the child cannot be more than 45 years," family, youth and sports minister Mr Pavlenko said.

"The law is the same for everybody - for a president, for a minister, for Elton John."

ejfan Offline




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16.09.2009 18:43
#23 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

Also eines versteh ich einfach nicht......russisch!!^^
http://www.novy.tv/reporter/ukraine/2009/09/14/17/08.html

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18.09.2009 07:49
#24 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

Und weiter geht's..

Elton John could become Ukrainian baby Lev's 'guardian'
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 1:16 AM on 18th September 2009

After being branded unsuitable to adopt by Ukrainian officials because of his age and sexuality, Elton John was given new hope yesterday that he could look after the baby boy who won his heart in a Ukrainian children's home.

After originally saying the pop star was barred from becoming little Lev's legal guardian, the authorities there have come up with a compromise.

The deal would allow Sir Elton to bring up the child in Britain with his partner David Furnish but also involve Lev's mother, who retains parental rights to him.

It was unveiled by Ukraine Families Minister Yuri Pavlenko who had previously refused to contemplate the 14-month-old boy's adoption because the 62-year-old pop star was too old and in a same-sex relationship.

Last night he said Sir Elton 'has the right and opportunity to invite the family of this boy to visit him, take them under his guardianship, and help him grow into a good person'.

He stressed: 'I'd like to ask everyone be tolerant to the boy. This is not an orphan, the child has a mother and an elder brother and so he cannot be adopted by law.

'He has a difficult fate, like his mother. Help has been provided to his mother, who is living back in the community now.

'I am sure that soon this family will be united. Let's help the mother to find strength to bring the family back together.'

His comments represent a change of heart in support of the singer who met Lev last Saturday and immediately expressed the desire to adopt him.

Under the scheme, the mother - who has not been named and is believed to be an HIV sufferer, would be encouraged to accept an invitation to visit Sir Elton in Britain with both of her two children.

A source in Kiev said: 'It would be entirely up to the mother if she agreed to this arrangement. It could allow her to stay involved in their upbringing under Elton's guidance.'

The deal would mean halting official legal moves which have begun to strip the mother of her parental rights, so making Lev - and his sibling - orphans.

It is likely to be controversial in Ukraine where there is strong opposition - led by the Orthodox and Catholic churches - to gay adoption or anything similar.

One churchman has already branded Sir Elton a 'sinner'.

A spokesman for Sir Elton declined to comment.

Rocket Girls Offline




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14.12.2009 11:56
#25 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

Elton John sorgt für ukrainischen Waisenjungen

http://newsticker.welt.de/?module=dpa&id=23231980

Elton we love you forever!!!!

MissEltonJohn Offline




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14.12.2009 17:44
#26 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

...sunshine, that's fine :) elton that's better :)

Rocket Girls Offline




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16.12.2009 11:28
#27 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

Elton we love you forever!!!!

Rocket Girls Offline




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29.12.2009 23:15
#28 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten



... ist das nicht niedlich ??? Elton würde bestimmt einen guten Papa abgeben !!!

Elton John - Our One and Only

Nikita Offline




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30.12.2009 00:08
#29 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

Oh ja, total süüüüüüüüß!!

marc Offline




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30.12.2009 00:26
#30 RE: Elton in der Ukraine Antworten

ja wirklich süüüüß

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